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War match making ? If there is a match making criteria!

Eezzyy

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So my cartel is LEVEL 25 compound and we have 14 members at 1890 medal count . Our war opponent at the moment is level 28 compound , 23 member and he a 3,002 medal count. So Can somebody tell me what are the chances of us beating this Cartel. In the past 10 wars we have won 1 war. Because all of our opponents out match us. Yeah this was caused by another failure update by FTX. We spend way too much money attacking on wars just to knoW we are automatically losing it.SMH FTX NEEDS TO STOP MAKIMG UPDATES Because all your updates have just messed up this game so bad. War which are the main point of this game are useless unless you're a top 20 Cartel. And u know those top 20 cartel are the ones spending big bank in the game. In other words I'm tired of feeling like the punching bag of FTX to make their top payers happy...straight ********
 

Justice

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Rating and member count have nothing to do with your chances of winning a war. Rating is just medals and all wars have equal numbers of players on each side. Their compound is 3 higher than yours, that is not a big deal. If you have lost 9 of your last 10 wars you need some better players onboard.
 

Eezzyy

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Rating and member count have nothing to do with your chances of winning a war. Rating is just medals and all wars have equal numbers of players on each side. Their compound is 3 higher than yours, that is not a big deal. If you have lost 9 of your last 10 wars you need some better players onboard.
Are you stupid or acting. You mean to tell me that if we have a 10 vs 10 and I have 6 players level 40plus and you only have one , that the levels of players and medal count have nothing to do with war points?? Try telling that to all the players that keep attacking the same weak players over and over because the 40 level plus players are our of their reach. Im a 45 level Capo and in 73 wars I have only been attacked maybe 5 times in all. Imagine all the points every cartel didnt get from me because they couldnt attack me.Therefore you dnt get the points from each 40 plus level player that doesnt get touched and compound levels doesn't matter you say. ? So if my compound is level 24 and I fight a level 12 compound we have the same chances. ? Ignorant you are. The compound level is defined by the level of your defensive pieces and. A LEVEL 26 compound has a rocket unlocked Which is a huge advantage. Over even a 26 level compound without a rocket launcher. And you wanna tell me that fighting stronger compounds has no difference? Lmao you're funny. I'm a CAPO so I know exactly what I mean. Go find some info and facts before u come with ignorance. Wars are based on attacks, each attack on a single player pays out less after every time that person is attacked. Come on think for a second.
 
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Eezzyy

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By the way. What level are you? And what's ur highest level player in your cartel
 

Justice

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I've been playing this game for more than 12 months. I believe you are the one who is ignorant. I'm trying to help you. I have 2 level 50+ accts and have seen it all brother. I understand your frustration. Once you get above compound level 20 be ready for more and more wars where the compound levels are not equal, most wars I see are at least 10 compound levels apart. Don't confuse average level of a cartel's players with a cartel's Rating. Rating is based on medals and does not have anything do with your chances at winning. I never said anything about you not being in a mismatch, which is really about average level being too far apart. I stand by my statement, you need some better (or at least higher level) players, including one who has feugos and knows how to kill a compound. Sounds like you also need your own Cartel Rocket Launcher too. Wishing FTX will give you easy wars is not going to help.
 

Eezzyy

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I've been playing this game for more than 12 months. I believe you are the one who is ignorant. I'm trying to help you. I have 2 level 50+ accts and have seen it all brother. I understand your frustration. Once you get above compound level 20 be ready for more and more wars where the compound levels are not equal, most wars I see are at least 10 compound levels apart. Don't confuse average level of a cartel's players with a cartel's Rating. Rating is based on medals and does not have anything do with your chances at winning. I never said anything about you not being in a mismatch, which is really about average level being too far apart. I stand by my statement, you need some better (or at least higher level) players, including one who has feugos and knows how to kill a compound. Sounds like you also need your own Cartel Rocket Launcher too. Wishing FTX will give you easy wars is not going to help.
okay let me explain this to you. If i have a 4 vs 4 war per say . Right !? And I have 4 let's say 42 level players that equal 1200 medal count, and I have 4 players. One level 30, 24, 35 and 38 that equal that same amount of medal count. Are u telling me that that's a fair and equal war. ? Because medal count is the main formula for war matchmaking. The compound is the one out of proportion in war match criteria. Or you tell me what defines a war match criteri. Cuz we can both agree that compound could be the last thing. How do u think that they paid a 14 vs 14 even if the other team has 23 players? Explain that to me.give it a shot
 

Eezzyy

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Wish I could post a pic of my war line up against the war line up we are against. And me as a CAPO is the one destroying the compound. Usually all by myself which means I use my 3 attacks. So being the only one level over 45 none of my 38 and 39 and 37 level players will touch the player that is left at let's say level 44 or 46. . Therefore that's nearly 10 points from each player (not being an exact number of points) that my cartel will not received because my players were mismatched. Therefore I will receive more 2 points and one points because there are less players to attack
 
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Eezzyy

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I've been playing this game for more than 12 months. I believe you are the one who is ignorant. I'm trying to help you. I have 2 level 50+ accts and have seen it all brother. I understand your frustration. Once you get above compound level 20 be ready for more and more wars where the compound levels are not equal, most wars I see are at least 10 compound levels apart. Don't confuse average level of a cartel's players with a cartel's Rating. Rating is based on medals and does not have anything do with your chances at winning. I never said anything about you not being in a mismatch, which is really about average level being too far apart. I stand by my statement, you need some better (or at least higher level) players, including one who has feugos and knows how to kill a compound. Sounds like you also need your own Cartel Rocket Launcher too. Wishing FTX will give you easy wars is not going to help.
I don't want EASY wars trust we put up 160 to 170 points when we could do more but alot of my opponents don't get touched because they are high level players with low medal count
 

Revilo

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it certainly makes all the difference if opponent has couple of players that are untouchable

player at higher levels tend to have better compound sicarios as well. I see it all the time, even in my cartel.
makes a huge difference if you have do deal with leveled up Edge's and Velasco's instead of your run-of-the-mill Bruto/Bailey/Ignacia pack
 
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Justice

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Ezzyy... I never said your war was a fair match up. Don't be so hostile when someone is trying to help you. lol

Cartels are matched based on Compound level, average player level, rating and win/loss record. Don't be so sure you know what the primary factor is. Mismatches occur all the time, the better your cartel the more likely you are too see one(in your favor or against you). Thing is FTX can't fix it, they've tried and no matter what they do some people aren't happy. They used to match only cartels that had very close stats, but then the problem was cartels were waiting for days to land a war and always got the same opponents. Currently, matching is geared toward short waits. They have changed the matching parameters several times since the game started. People want equal compounds, equal average level, equal ratings, no one dropped and a short search. It is impossible for FTX to provide all of that. Should they dump Rating from the equation, that's a good question but not what I was trying to get at....

What I'm really trying to tell you is to get stronger because things will only get harder for you and your cartel. You will only see more and more cartel rocket launchers, and soon you will see a nerve cannon too. You need your highest level players to hit other players, not take out the compound. When you lose 9 of 10 wars is not all FTX's fault because you had 9 mismatches, what it means is your cartel players are not strong enough for your compound level and rating.

You keep asking about my credentials... I'm TURF HOGS and ALITA DE MOSC@. I've been everything from Capo to Recruit at various times. I'm not going to argue with you, I'm trying to help a guy who I empathize with. I remember the day I was Capo of my old cartel Chapo Gods and we ran into our first Cartel Rocket Launcher. It was very ugly! We got hammered because we didn't know how to handle it. That's the day I learned feugos are for the compound. Lol
 

Eezzyy

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Ezzyy... I never said your war was a fair match up. Don't be so hostile when someone is trying to help you. lol

Cartels are matched based on Compound level, average player level, rating and win/loss record. Don't be so sure you know what the primary factor is. Mismatches occur all the time, the better your cartel the more likely you are too see one(in your favor or against you). Thing is FTX can't fix it, they've tried and no matter what they do some people aren't happy. They used to match only cartels that had very close stats, but then the problem was cartels were waiting for days to land a war and always got the same opponents. Currently, matching is geared toward short waits. They have changed the matching parameters several times since the game started. People want equal compounds, equal average level, equal ratings, no one dropped and a short search. It is impossible for FTX to provide all of that. Should they dump Rating from the equation, that's a good question but not what I was trying to get at....

What I'm really trying to tell you is to get stronger because things will only get harder for you and your cartel. You will only see more and more cartel rocket launchers, and soon you will see a nerve cannon too. You need your highest level players to hit other players, not take out the compound. When you lose 9 of 10 wars is not all FTX's fault because you had 9 mismatches, what it means is your cartel players are not strong enough for your compound level and rating.

You keep asking about my credentials... I'm TURF HOGS and ALITA DE MOSC@. I've been everything from Capo to Recruit at various times. I'm not going to argue with you, I'm trying to help a guy who I empathize with. I remember the day I was Capo of my old cartel Chapo Gods and we ran into our first Cartel Rocket Launcher. It was very ugly! We got hammered because we didn't know how to handle it. That's the day I learned feugos are for the compound. Lol
Hmmmmmmmm.. only thing I'm asking for is a fair match up... PLAYERS WISE. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS FAILED AND SUCCESFULL ATTACKS..A 22 LEVEL COMPOUND WAS FACED WITH A 38 LEVEL COMPOUND ONCE.. WE WERE THE UNDERDOGS. IT TOOK ME 3 ATTACKS AND 1 ATTACK FROM MY RIGHT HAND TO DESTROY THE COMPOUND AND IT TOOK THEM 1 ATTACK TO DESTROY MINE. THAT'S US 3 ATTACKS BACK. Because of mismatch not strategy or lack of fire power. That's a problem. Having 8 PLAYER only have the ability to attack 5 players it's a disadvantage. A 45 LEVEL player can WASTE an attack and gain points on any level player under them. A 42 level player would lose trying to attack a 45 level player. Therefore they have to attack the same players that their 35 level players are attacking therefore taking those points from another 35 level range team mate. The point is this war matches maked it impossible it impossible for a average cartel and average players....
 
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