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Attacked 52 times in the last 4 days

Chilly-P

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Is this normal? Because of the update? I dont get it.

I dont think I have a horrible base design. My defenses are almost maxed for My finca level. Yet I just counted my log and have been attacked FIFTY TWO times in the last 4 days. Out of those I have 8 defenses, so Ive had my resources stolen 44 times in that span. Of course some of these are revenges, but less than half.

How the heck am I supposed to get anywhere? There is NO WAY I can accumulate a million cash to do any type of upgrade in my Training Camp. Is this happening to everyone, or what am I doing wrong since the update?

I'm level 34, finca 12, 562 medals.
 

Julio

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I have had very slow player repopulating on my map since the update (five player opponents in 24 hours), yet I've had almost 40 player attacks over the last four days. I guess that makes sense. If i show up on five maps per day and i get five revenge attacks, that makes 10 attacks on my base per day.

It does feel like the frequency of raids is up though... Maybe that's because I've had a couple of times that I'd been raided 3 to 4 times in an hour.

And just to clarify, are you going back to "3 days ago" on your log or "4 days ago" (which would be five days of attacks...)?
 

Chilly-P

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Yeah Im going back to all that say 4 days ago, so You are correct its actually 5 days. Still seems like a ton of attacks.

Especially considering that with this games system if You have any resources built up they take way more from you than You can ever get back. How do any of You higher level player out there accumulate the 1.5-2 million cash it must take to do any upgrades? Anytime I get up near 750-800k I get 250 of that stolen from Me when I log off.
 

Julio

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Chilly, i laid out a couple of strategies in the Outpost Prices thread. You may find one or more of them useful...
 

sky_high

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i think i've been attacked like 37 times in 4 days and that's only the stuff i can see on the log. that's like double the amount of attacks i normally get. so my new strategy is just to wait for the next event!
 

R3iL7y

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i had 27 attacks hit me within 24 hours on a saturday a few weeks back. Thats the most ive been hit and that was long before the updates
 

Huanito

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Is this normal? Because of the update? I dont get it.

I dont think I have a horrible base design. My defenses are almost maxed for My finca level. Yet I just counted my log and have been attacked FIFTY TWO times in the last 4 days. Out of those I have 8 defenses, so Ive had my resources stolen 44 times in that span. Of course some of these are revenges, but less than half.

How the heck am I supposed to get anywhere? There is NO WAY I can accumulate a million cash to do any type of upgrade in my Training Camp. Is this happening to everyone, or what am I doing wrong since the update?

I'm level 34, finca 12, 562 medals.
The issue should be not the number of attacks he had but why since the update , he cant defend his base while the base layout is almost maxed?
 

Chilly-P

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I guess Im going to just keep plugging along. Ive been hit 4 times in the 7 hours since I posted this. I have about the same amount of cash and iron I started the day with, and less wood and stone than I started with despite clearing My entire map.

Its pretty simple. If I go a couple days without being able to make the 75k iron to upgrade My finca, or the 1.1 million cash to do an upgrade in the camp, I'll just end up losing interest and stop playing. I'm guessing thats a huge part of the reason this game is so sparsely populated.
 

Yeo

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Have you joined a good cartel? It makes a huge difference in this game. It won't prevent your base from attacks but every bit helps.

If you're aiming to upgrade something, my suggestion is to calculate whether you can reach enough resources from one playthrough. You are at a severe disadvantage if you attack enemies here and there throughout the day. If I do the math and see that I can gain enough resources from clearing the entire map while my game is open for 1-2 hours, then that's when I try to gather resources.

Attack to build right away. Don't attack to try and save up. It'll never work due to raids.
 

Vinnie Di Maggio

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It's certainly a lot, but that doesn't look crazy either. I am usually raided around 25 times in 2 days. That's without the resource centers of course.
 

Chilly-P

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It's certainly a lot, but that doesn't look crazy either. I am usually raided around 25 times in 2 days. That's without the resource centers of course.
So How do You keep Your resources then? I need 60k Iron to upgrade my camp. Ive been playing all day, clearing My map. I log off for an hour and all my iron is stolen. I have a clear map and all I have to show for it is 37k iron. Am I only expected to upgrade a building every 2-3 days?
 

Chilly-P

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Have you joined a good cartel? It makes a huge difference in this game. It won't prevent your base from attacks but every bit helps.

If you're aiming to upgrade something, my suggestion is to calculate whether you can reach enough resources from one playthrough. You are at a severe disadvantage if you attack enemies here and there throughout the day. If I do the math and see that I can gain enough resources from clearing the entire map while my game is open for 1-2 hours, then that's when I try to gather resources.

Attack to build right away. Don't attack to try and save up. It'll never work due to raids.

That seems like the best idea floating around and for the most part what I try to do when I can. I just think its stupid. This is a mobile game. Its it silly to Me to think that the only way to progress on it is to sit with the app open for hours while You are only playing part of that time. I mean if thats what the developers want the game to be, fine, thats their choice. I guess it just might not be for Me. I doubt Im in the minority.

Whats the huge difference in cartels? I think mine is pretty decent. We have mostly active players.
 

Yeo

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That seems like the best idea floating around and for the most part what I try to do when I can. I just think its stupid. This is a mobile game. Its it silly to Me to think that the only way to progress on it is to sit with the app open for hours while You are only playing part of that time. I mean if thats what the developers want the game to be, fine, thats their choice. I guess it just might not be for Me. I doubt Im in the minority.

Whats the huge difference in cartels? I think mine is pretty decent. We have mostly active players.
Since I started playing, the game has been fairly easy in terms of progression. I distinctly remember the only difficulties I had was when I first encountered stone, and then iron. I don't remember what level those two resources first appeared but I remember it being really difficult to obtain them for upgrades. However, after awhile they both became easier to obtain and now I have too much of them. I don't know where I was going with that except to maybe say stick with it because it gets easier once you get over small obstacles.

I agree with you that it is far too difficult to protect your resources. You bring up a good point in that as a mobile game, people are not going to be active 24/7 so they should not be penalized so severely. Truthfully, I can't pretend like I experience it as badly as other players since I run the game for roughly 12 hours a day so I get raided far less, but I can definitely empathize. Hopefully the devs are taking feedback regarding the bunker and make changes so it's easier to preserve resources.

For the last 3 months, I stayed in my first cartel because it was pretty chill and I was made capo because I am a super active player. However, the cartel wasn't very active and therefore we didn't win very many wars. Which was fine until you hit a level where you need cartel winnings to help upgrade buildings, so recently I switched to a pretty good cartel that's ranked on the leaderboard. Not only do I benefit from winning resources from wars, but the cartel bonuses can provide a buff to your defenses. I normally didn't care about getting raided because I account for it and play around it, so I didn't put up effort into base layout. However, the minute I changed cartels and my layout, I started getting successful base defenses. Could be a coincidence, but I really think it helped since all my buildings got more HP and DMG.

Timing is very important in this game in terms of resources especially now they changed how ports work (they really need to bring back the boat ). It's easier to upgrade when you attack a bunch of bases for resources right before you're about to win a cartel war. That way you get a sudden increase of resources and that should help make upgrades without the problem of raids. But again, this was much easier when they had the boat for ports.

What does your current base layout look like?
 
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Vinnie Di Maggio

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So How do You keep Your resources then? I need 60k Iron to upgrade my camp. Ive been playing all day, clearing My map. I log off for an hour and all my iron is stolen. I have a clear map and all I have to show for it is 37k iron. Am I only expected to upgrade a building every 2-3 days?
I don't keep my resources if I don't have a shield. I think everyone gets raided, that's the way the game is designed. The thing is that you can only upgrade if you plan in advance to combine all in one long game session: map cleared of outposts and player bases + revenges + war winnings + what you have saved from your storage and resource centers.

I agree that it's too difficult and not fun, the boat was a good thing because it allowed to save more and actually do upgrades. Indeed it is difficult to upgrade a building more often than every 2-3 days, which is my current pace. The game has become a little less fun because of that. I also think that the war winnings are ridiculously small: it doesn't even cover your troops expenses. Let's just hope the guys at FTX hear us.
 

Chilly-P

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That seems like the best idea floating around and for the most part what I try to do when I can. I just think its stupid. This is a mobile game. Its it silly to Me to think that the only way to progress on it is to sit with the app open for hours while You are only playing part of that time. I mean if thats what the developers want the game to be, fine, thats their choice. I guess it just might not be for Me. I doubt Im in the minority.

Whats the huge difference in cartels? I think mine is pretty decent. We have mostly active players.
My cartel is winning, thats why I dont want to leave. In fact, We are 17-0. We have almost full participation in wars, good donations, and something is always upgrading in the compound and capos club.. I see the cartels We go against and 1-2 top guys attack and thats it. I dont want to end up in and endless search for a good cartel.

Here are some pics of My base. I'm trying, but really dont know if its a poor design or what. Any constructive criticism is welcome.
 

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Yeo

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You seem to be in a pretty decent Cartel so I would stick with them. It seems like a young cartel so you guys have yet to max out a lot of the Capo club boosts but you'll get there.

I don't remember what squads people typically ran around level 34, I'm assuming flacos...either way, I tend to find symmetrical bases weaker because you can easily dodge half the defenses. For example, if I aggro'd my squads correctly, I would only have to deal with the defenses on the right side of your finca (shown in red). I would suggest playing with layouts where enemies are forced to pass through as much defenses as possible to get to your finca. In my experience, I played a lot with the two designs show in blue and green. Since towers have the widest range, I tend to use those as indicators to dictate how wide my base should be and I build around that. They tended to work relatively well. It's only when you get to the higher levels that bases seem to be more spread out and symmetrical, but that's due to the extra defenses available to them such as rockets and nerve gas.

Remember that bases aren't going to be 100% defensible. But with a decent layout, you should be lucky enough to prevent attacks from those that don't aggro well.
 

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Chilly-P

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Cool. Thank You much for Your time, and the base ideas. I will definitely take them under advisement. .
 
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