Any suggestions on how to get a decent opponent? At least to compete. Our cartel rating is 10000 (35+ members are level 30+ with warring. We've reduce that to 28). Still we've been getting ridiculous opponents. (Right now an opponent with 18000+ rating) Only the first war opponent after this new update was matched with us. The next two were similar to the opponents we've been getting before this update. Waste of time giving suggestions to these developers.
War matchmaking
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Renan
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War matchmaking seems to be out of our hands these days. I've heard stories that level 50-60 cartels are matched with level 90+ cartels which is a consequence if you only opt in level 53+ players. We're currently in a 10 v 10 war against a cartel with a level 51 player as their lowest level player. The rest are between level 53-58. We have 4 players under level 50 opted in (48, 47, 46, 46). Can't tell you the outcome yet though as we've only started a couple of hours ago 
Some suggestions to improve efficiency:
Some suggestions to improve efficiency:
- Make a war plan, scout each opponent on the first day and share your findings to everyone in your cartel.
- Have someone or two in your cartel who can take down compounds in 2 hits (3 is the absolute maximum).
- If your friends are struggling, tell them to focus on offense FIRST and don't level up if they're not ready. No matter how strong your defense is, there's always someone out there who can take it down.
- Gather your best compound sicarios, get some extra damage talents. If you lack dice to get second chance skills, just put the protective fury skills as they don't require you to swap slot colors.
- Remember that being a falcon should not be seen as a promotion.
- With a little bit of work and time you'll get there.
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We are absolutely killing it @Renan 1 failed attack from the first 20 attacks and even that was just the first compound run to take out their sics and @TonyCasto almoat got it down in that run.War matchmaking seems to be out of our hands these. I've heard stories that level 50-60 cartels are matched with level 90+ cartels which is a consequence if you only opt in level 53+ players. We're currently in a 10 v 10 war against a cartel with a level 51 player as their lowest level player. The rest are between level 53-58. We have 4 players under level 50 opted in (48, 47, 46, 46). Can't tell you the outcome yet though as we've only started a couple of hours ago
Some suggestions to improve efficiency:
- Make a war plan, scout each opponent on the first day and share your findings to everyone in your cartel.
- Have someone or two in your cartel who can take down compounds in 2 hits (3 is the absolute maximum).
- If your friends are struggling, tell them to focus on offense FIRST and don't level up if they're not ready. No matter how strong your defense is, there's always someone out there who can take it down.
- Gather your best compound sicarios, get some extra damage talents. If you lack dice to get second chance skills, just put the protective fury skills as they don't require you to swap slot colors.
- Remember that being a falcon should not be seen as a promotion.
- With a little bit of work and time you'll get there.
War matchmaking seems to be out of our hands these. I've heard stories that level 50-60 cartels are matched with level 90+ cartels which is a consequence if you only opt in level 53+ players. We're currently in a 10 v 10 war against a cartel with a level 51 player as their lowest level player. The rest are between level 53-58. We have 4 players under level 50 opted in (48, 47, 46, 46). Can't tell you the outcome yet though as we've only started a couple of hours ago
Some suggestions to improve efficiency:
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We know that reducing the no of war players and going with the strongest players can work. Almost all the top 7 cartels in our region do it (We are 4th in India). But we are against that idea, due to this
- People join a top cartel to get good rewards from wars, benefits in compound and chest rewards. When we don't give a chance to them in the wars, they will slowly loose interest and reduce donations, chest contributions. To such people, the cartels war success rates don't matter. So we want to give everyone a chance. Min 25 max 30 out of our active 40 players. We used to go with 30-35 couple of weeks back.
- lot of top cartels are slowly fading out in our region. As the cartel performance was solely dependent on those few warring player
Thanks for your suggestions man.
Some suggestions to improve efficiency:
- Make a war plan, scout each opponent on the first day and share your findings to everyone in your cartel.
- Have someone or two in your cartel who can take down compounds in 2 hits (3 is the absolute maximum).
- If your friends are struggling, tell them to focus on offense FIRST and don't level up if they're not ready. No matter how strong your defense is, there's always someone out there who can take it down.
- Gather your best compound sicarios, get some extra damage talents. If you lack dice to get second chance skills, just put the protective fury skills as they don't require you to swap slot colors.
- Remember that being a falcon should not be seen as a promotion.
- With a little bit of work and time you'll get there.
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We know that reducing the no of war players and going with the strongest players can work. Almost all the top 7 cartels in our region do it (We are 4th in India). But we are against that idea, due to this
- People join a top cartel to get good rewards from wars, benefits in compound and chest rewards. When we don't give a chance to them in the wars, they will slowly loose interest and reduce donations, chest contributions. To such people, the cartels war success rates don't matter. So we want to give everyone a chance. Min 25 max 30 out of our active 40 players. We used to go with 30-35 couple of weeks back.
- lot of top cartels are slowly fading out in our region. As the cartel performance was solely dependent on those few warring player
Thanks for your suggestions man.
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MrBakoBullyz
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Interested in the player performance for our feeder cartel.
*Level 27 Zone*
_For beginners_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 8,9,10,11 at Level 15,18,21,24
Finca 12 at 27
Finca 13 at 30 (Gives Rocket 1)
Squad 4 at Finca 12 (Level 27)
Firebomb 1 at Helipad 12 (Level 27)
Bank 7 at Finca 12 (Level 27)
*4 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10.
*2 Special Guirella outposts* at Finca 8,11.
So you should have *full attacking edge before level 28.* Calculate xp levels and progress accordingly.
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before level 28
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd minor defenses._
_#Constructions_
P1....Finca 12
P2....Helipad 12
P3....Training Center 9
P4....Bunker 11
P6.... 4 Squads at Level 11
_(18 units space....6 Gordos,9 Rpgs,4 feugos,18 flacos)_
P5.... Bank 7 _(24k cash/hr)_
P7.... Cartel Port 5 or 6
_Should have sufficient storages to utilize resources from cartel chests (Cartel port + base storages)_
_#Troops_
P2....Gordos 10
P3....Flaco 10 (7/8 min)
P7....Rpg 10 (7/8 min)
P10..Feugos 5 (optional)
_Manage troops by using guirellas every week_
_#Helipad Abilities_
P1...Missile 10
P4...Focus upto 7 secs
P6.. Medpack 10 (5/6 min)
P5...Flash upto 7 secs
P9...Paratroopers 5 (4/drop)
P8...Propaganda upto 8 secs
P11..Firebomb 1
*SUGGESTIONS*
*#Levelling up*
- Follow priorities carefully
- Take suggestions before upgrading sicarios. Wait for the best helipad ability booster sicarios. If you have doubts about sicarios ask in the group
- Use XP from TC upgrades for levelling up
- Level up slowly only after reaching max attack buildings (except squads)
- Have sufficient storages in your base. *Use cartel port to avoid xp gains from storage buildings*
- Unlock all possible areas on the map
- Unlock 5 + 2 special bases.
- Prefer Big bang skill raids.
*#Defenses*
- Have lowest priority on defenses _(do it only when you can't get xp from attack buildings and TC upgrades)_
- Use sicario boosts and talents to handle buildings. (Building health and damage Preferred)
*Note:* _You will attract a lot of revenge attacks as your base is weak. So defense sicarios with building health/damages are very important for strategy 3 to work well. Don't upgrade any other sicarios_
*#War and Chest*
- It will be very difficult to get 9 successful attacks and 3 cartel war victories in a week, as I completely depends on war opponents.
- Rewards from chest will be far greater than what you get from the above mentioned war performance
- So if you're below 34, Focus on chests - *Get sicarios and gold as well from chest 9,10,11*
*Important*: _Before reaching 26/27 and 28...calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly._
_For beginners_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 8,9,10,11 at Level 15,18,21,24
Finca 12 at 27
Finca 13 at 30 (Gives Rocket 1)
Squad 4 at Finca 12 (Level 27)
Firebomb 1 at Helipad 12 (Level 27)
Bank 7 at Finca 12 (Level 27)
*4 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10.
*2 Special Guirella outposts* at Finca 8,11.
So you should have *full attacking edge before level 28.* Calculate xp levels and progress accordingly.
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before level 28
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd minor defenses._
_#Constructions_
P1....Finca 12
P2....Helipad 12
P3....Training Center 9
P4....Bunker 11
P6.... 4 Squads at Level 11
_(18 units space....6 Gordos,9 Rpgs,4 feugos,18 flacos)_
P5.... Bank 7 _(24k cash/hr)_
P7.... Cartel Port 5 or 6
_Should have sufficient storages to utilize resources from cartel chests (Cartel port + base storages)_
_#Troops_
P2....Gordos 10
P3....Flaco 10 (7/8 min)
P7....Rpg 10 (7/8 min)
P10..Feugos 5 (optional)
_Manage troops by using guirellas every week_
_#Helipad Abilities_
P1...Missile 10
P4...Focus upto 7 secs
P6.. Medpack 10 (5/6 min)
P5...Flash upto 7 secs
P9...Paratroopers 5 (4/drop)
P8...Propaganda upto 8 secs
P11..Firebomb 1
*SUGGESTIONS*
*#Levelling up*
- Follow priorities carefully
- Take suggestions before upgrading sicarios. Wait for the best helipad ability booster sicarios. If you have doubts about sicarios ask in the group
- Use XP from TC upgrades for levelling up
- Level up slowly only after reaching max attack buildings (except squads)
- Have sufficient storages in your base. *Use cartel port to avoid xp gains from storage buildings*
- Unlock all possible areas on the map
- Unlock 5 + 2 special bases.
- Prefer Big bang skill raids.
*#Defenses*
- Have lowest priority on defenses _(do it only when you can't get xp from attack buildings and TC upgrades)_
- Use sicario boosts and talents to handle buildings. (Building health and damage Preferred)
*Note:* _You will attract a lot of revenge attacks as your base is weak. So defense sicarios with building health/damages are very important for strategy 3 to work well. Don't upgrade any other sicarios_
*#War and Chest*
- It will be very difficult to get 9 successful attacks and 3 cartel war victories in a week, as I completely depends on war opponents.
- Rewards from chest will be far greater than what you get from the above mentioned war performance
- So if you're below 34, Focus on chests - *Get sicarios and gold as well from chest 9,10,11*
*Important*: _Before reaching 26/27 and 28...calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly._
*Level 37 Zone*
_For Level 27-37 Players who completed priority construction and training activities mentioned in *level 27 Zone* post_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 13,14,15,16 at 30,32,34,37
Finca 17 at 41
TC 11,12,13 at Finca 14 (Level 32)
TC 14,15 at Finca 15 (Level 34)
Bank 8,9 at Finca 13,16.
Rocket 2 at Finca 16 (Level 37)
Smokescreen 1 at Helipad 16 (Level 37)
*Squad capacities* (incl +2 from cartel)
*At 11, it's 18 (6G,9R,4F)*
At 12, it's 19 (6G,9R,4F)
At 13, it's 20 (6G,10R,5F)
*At 14, it's 21 (7G,10R,5F)*
At 15, it's 22 (7G,11R,5F)
*At 16, it's 24 (8G,12R,6F)*
Difficult weekly raid (25 outposts) from level 37/38 or Finca 16.
*7 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10,12,14,16.
*3 Special Guerilla outposts* at Finca 8,11,15.
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before level 37
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd major defenses._
_#Constructions_
P1....Finca 15
P2....Bunker 14
P3....TC 15
P4....Helipad 15
P6....x4 Squad 14
P5....Bank 9
*Cash storage for Missile 17*
*W,S,I Storages for Helipad 16*
*No need to build Port beyond 5/6*
_#Troops & Abilities_
P2....Gordos 14/15/16
P7....Rpgs 8/7/6
P6....Flacos/Feugos (Optional)
_Manage troops by using guirellas every week_
P1....Missile 16
P3....Focus 8 secs
P4....Flash 7/8 secs
P10..Medpack 10 (7/8 min)
P9....Paratroopers 5 (4/drop)
P8....Propaganda 8/9 secs
P5....Firebomb 7/8
P11..Smokescreen 1
*After Level 37*
_It Depends upon progress till 37. Take detailed feedback in the group_
*Note:* _You will attract a lot of revenge attacks as your base is weak. So defense sicarios with building health/damages are very important for strategy 3 to work well. Don't upgrade any other sicarios_
_*Important*: Before reaching 37 or 38 calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly._
_For Level 27-37 Players who completed priority construction and training activities mentioned in *level 27 Zone* post_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 13,14,15,16 at 30,32,34,37
Finca 17 at 41
TC 11,12,13 at Finca 14 (Level 32)
TC 14,15 at Finca 15 (Level 34)
Bank 8,9 at Finca 13,16.
Rocket 2 at Finca 16 (Level 37)
Smokescreen 1 at Helipad 16 (Level 37)
*Squad capacities* (incl +2 from cartel)
*At 11, it's 18 (6G,9R,4F)*
At 12, it's 19 (6G,9R,4F)
At 13, it's 20 (6G,10R,5F)
*At 14, it's 21 (7G,10R,5F)*
At 15, it's 22 (7G,11R,5F)
*At 16, it's 24 (8G,12R,6F)*
Difficult weekly raid (25 outposts) from level 37/38 or Finca 16.
*7 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10,12,14,16.
*3 Special Guerilla outposts* at Finca 8,11,15.
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before level 37
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd major defenses._
_#Constructions_
P1....Finca 15
P2....Bunker 14
P3....TC 15
P4....Helipad 15
P6....x4 Squad 14
P5....Bank 9
*Cash storage for Missile 17*
*W,S,I Storages for Helipad 16*
*No need to build Port beyond 5/6*
_#Troops & Abilities_
P2....Gordos 14/15/16
P7....Rpgs 8/7/6
P6....Flacos/Feugos (Optional)
_Manage troops by using guirellas every week_
P1....Missile 16
P3....Focus 8 secs
P4....Flash 7/8 secs
P10..Medpack 10 (7/8 min)
P9....Paratroopers 5 (4/drop)
P8....Propaganda 8/9 secs
P5....Firebomb 7/8
P11..Smokescreen 1
*After Level 37*
_It Depends upon progress till 37. Take detailed feedback in the group_
*Note:* _You will attract a lot of revenge attacks as your base is weak. So defense sicarios with building health/damages are very important for strategy 3 to work well. Don't upgrade any other sicarios_
_*Important*: Before reaching 37 or 38 calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly._
*Level 47 Zone*
_For Level 37-47 Players who completed priority construction and training activities mentioned in the *level 37 Zone* post_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 17,18,19,20 at 41,43,45,47
Finca 21 at 50
Bunker 18,19 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Bank 10 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Rocket 3 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Nerve 2 at Finca 20 (Level 47)
Torchers from Finca 18 (Level 43)
Toxicos from Finca 20 (Level 47)
4 Troopers/drop at Level 5 (TC9)
5 Troopers/drop at Level 9 (TC13)
6 Troopers/drop at Level 13 (TC17)
7 Troopers/drop at Level 16 (TC20)
Max Rocket Level is 13 for Finca 20
Max Nerve Level is 9 for Finca 20
Max P Canon Level is 14 for Finca 20
*Squad capacities* (incl +2 from cartel)
At 15, it's 22 (7G,11R,5F,1T)
At 16, it's 24 (8G,12R,6F,1T)
*At 17, it's 26 (8G,13R,6F,2 Torchers)*
*At 18, it's 28 (9G,14R,7F,2T)*
At 19, it's 30 (10G,15R,7F,2T)
*At 20, it's 34 (11G,17R,8F,2T)*
Same weekly raid (20 outposts) from level 37/38 or Finca 16 to Level 49.
*9 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20
*4 Special Guirella outposts* at Finca 8,11,15,18
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before 47
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd major defenses,4th Minor Defenses_
_#Constructions_
P1...Finca 19
P2...Bunker 19
P3...TC 19
P4...Helipad 19
P6...x4 Squad 17
P5...Bank 10
*9 Million* Cash storage (10,9,9,9)
*6.5 Million* W,S,I Storage (10,9,9)
3x Rockets at 11 (if possible)
1x Nerve at 6 (if possible)
*No need to build Port beyond 5/6*
_#Troops & Abilities_
_Troops' priorties depends upon the combo you like_
A. Gordos 18/19/20 and Rpg 10/9/8
B. Feugos 13/12
C. Gordos 19/20
D. Flaco 17-20 and/or Rpg 10/11
E. Torchers 1
F. Others (less success rate)
P1.....Missile 20
P4....Focus 8 secs
P7... Medpack 10 (5/6 min)
P3....Flash upto 7/8 secs
P6....Paratroopers 5 or 9 (4,5/drop)
P5....Propaganda upto 8/9 secs
P2....Firebomb 15 (max)
P8....Smokescreen 1
*After Level 47* Before 50
Follow Strategy 1 without step 4.
Finca 20, TC20, Helipad20, Bunker20, Squads20
_Get the Best Helipad abilities_ and _Best Major Defenses_
Missile 21 / Firebomb 16
Focus 10 secs
Flash 10 secs
Paratroopers 9/13/16 (5,6,7 per drop)
Propaganda 10 secs
Smokescreen 14 secs
*Note*: _Cool down period during focus is always 15 secs_
Rockets x3 to level 13
Nerve x2 to Level 9
P Canon x4 to Level 14
*Important*: Before reaching 47 or 48.. calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly.
_For Level 37-47 Players who completed priority construction and training activities mentioned in the *level 37 Zone* post_
One of the best levels to enjoy the game
*#Unlocks*
Finca 17,18,19,20 at 41,43,45,47
Finca 21 at 50
Bunker 18,19 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Bank 10 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Rocket 3 at Finca 19 (Level 45)
Nerve 2 at Finca 20 (Level 47)
Torchers from Finca 18 (Level 43)
Toxicos from Finca 20 (Level 47)
4 Troopers/drop at Level 5 (TC9)
5 Troopers/drop at Level 9 (TC13)
6 Troopers/drop at Level 13 (TC17)
7 Troopers/drop at Level 16 (TC20)
Max Rocket Level is 13 for Finca 20
Max Nerve Level is 9 for Finca 20
Max P Canon Level is 14 for Finca 20
*Squad capacities* (incl +2 from cartel)
At 15, it's 22 (7G,11R,5F,1T)
At 16, it's 24 (8G,12R,6F,1T)
*At 17, it's 26 (8G,13R,6F,2 Torchers)*
*At 18, it's 28 (9G,14R,7F,2T)*
At 19, it's 30 (10G,15R,7F,2T)
*At 20, it's 34 (11G,17R,8F,2T)*
Same weekly raid (20 outposts) from level 37/38 or Finca 16 to Level 49.
*9 Special Skill/Contract Bases* at Finca 4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20
*4 Special Guirella outposts* at Finca 8,11,15,18
*TOP PRIORITIES* - Before 47
_1st Attack Buildings, 2nd Storages, 3rd major defenses,4th Minor Defenses_
_#Constructions_
P1...Finca 19
P2...Bunker 19
P3...TC 19
P4...Helipad 19
P6...x4 Squad 17
P5...Bank 10
*9 Million* Cash storage (10,9,9,9)
*6.5 Million* W,S,I Storage (10,9,9)
3x Rockets at 11 (if possible)
1x Nerve at 6 (if possible)
*No need to build Port beyond 5/6*
_#Troops & Abilities_
_Troops' priorties depends upon the combo you like_
A. Gordos 18/19/20 and Rpg 10/9/8
B. Feugos 13/12
C. Gordos 19/20
D. Flaco 17-20 and/or Rpg 10/11
E. Torchers 1
F. Others (less success rate)
P1.....Missile 20
P4....Focus 8 secs
P7... Medpack 10 (5/6 min)
P3....Flash upto 7/8 secs
P6....Paratroopers 5 or 9 (4,5/drop)
P5....Propaganda upto 8/9 secs
P2....Firebomb 15 (max)
P8....Smokescreen 1
*After Level 47* Before 50
Follow Strategy 1 without step 4.
Finca 20, TC20, Helipad20, Bunker20, Squads20
_Get the Best Helipad abilities_ and _Best Major Defenses_
Missile 21 / Firebomb 16
Focus 10 secs
Flash 10 secs
Paratroopers 9/13/16 (5,6,7 per drop)
Propaganda 10 secs
Smokescreen 14 secs
*Note*: _Cool down period during focus is always 15 secs_
Rockets x3 to level 13
Nerve x2 to Level 9
P Canon x4 to Level 14
*Important*: Before reaching 47 or 48.. calculate xp gains beforehand (from the fandom website/screenshots shared) and level up accordingly.
@MrBakoBullyz ..do let me know if there are any data related corrections to be done
MrBakoBullyz
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Thanks for posting great info everything seems good to go.@MrBakoBullyz ..do let me know if there are any data related corrections to be done
Update to this thread, we have reduced the no of warring players to 23-25. It's working fine as of now as we are atleast able to give a tough fight to the opponents in the last 4/5 wars. One war opponent was an exception case as that cartel has restarted their progress and we couldn't find a flaw in war matchmaking.
So war mismatch will be at peak levels if we go with 30-37 members (though they're ready to give full participation and above level 35). 25 looks ideal as of now! Can't go with lower numbers due to reasons mentioned above.
So war mismatch will be at peak levels if we go with 30-37 members (though they're ready to give full participation and above level 35). 25 looks ideal as of now! Can't go with lower numbers due to reasons mentioned above.
Chase - FTX Games
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That's pretty rough. I will pass this along.This is the worst we've faced till date......expecting more of this nonsense now
@Chase - FTX Games
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